Episode 04 part 1 – Interview with Chuck Dunning

Finally, our first guest! In this episode, all three of us interview C.R. “Chuck” Dunning, Jr., author of Contemplative Masonry: Basic Applications of Mindfulness, Meditation, and Imagery for the Craft. Please listen to the podcast and then read his book!

This interview ended up being so long that we have split it into two parts. Check back tomorrow for part 2, in which Chuck interviews us.


Since this was a teleconference, all of us drank different beers! Erik had the Salted Caramel Stout from Breakside Brewery. Chuck had the Ranger IPA from New Belgium Brewery. And Joey drank something out of a Starbucks cup.

Note that all profits from the sales of Chuck’s book go to the maintenance and restoration of the Scottish Rite Temple in Guthrie, Oklahoma.

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